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The only thing I ever read about Brooklyn deals with repercussions from losing the Dodgers.

It really makes me wonder if the leadership should make a concerted effort to attract an MLB team.

Yes I think they should have made an effort, we really think it was O'M who was to blame, they could have solidified that they didn't want to lose the Dodgers by going after a team right away. Isn't it ironic that 50 years later they are building a basketball complex on the same location on 4th ave.

The fact that it has taken over 50 years to develop that site tells you how hard it would have been to do what O'Malley supposedly wanted done. I say supposedly, because O'Malley knew all along that nothing was going to happen there, yet it gave the illusion that he really wanted to stay. As far as getting a team today, it would be very difficult. The Yankees and Mets would fight tooth and nail against it. MLB seems very comfortable with things as they are in New York.

They'll never get a team today but 50 years ago the could have got the Reds, Senators or an expansion team.

MLB is run by the same guy who wanted to contract the Twins. I'm sure the other teams in New York would fight it but I have never heard of a cornerstone franchise in a major professional sport that was so instrumental in making it famous not being replaced. I can accept the Mets replacing the Giants but the Dodgers were never replaced.

Kramer, O'Malley was not going to allow any team into Brooklyn, and he proved that.

Cajun in the eyes of the owners, the Mets replaced the Dodgers and Giants.

Yes he was just too powerful, that isn't to say a team like the Reds didn't want to come, he also kept his lease until 1960 just in case some team wanted to come.

Toward the end of this video, the user tries to superimpose the ballpark over the apartment complex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsGmXnSD ... re=related

I tried to write this to a .pdf file and post it but this forum won't accept .pdf uploads.

Here it is............

Thanks, Pete, talk about what should have been.

The fact that the site Walter O" Malley wanted for his ballpark has been empty for 50 + years talks volumnes. I do believe Walter would have built the park over those rail yards (a perfect place) if he was allowed. Listen he hinted for years he was going so he warned officials, New York was a cocky town back before the decline of the 60s and 70s you came to new york , the city didnt need you. Thats the attitude Walter faced, his even playing games in Jersey City was a last warning. Let's face it many of those who complain about O' Malley had no trouble themselves leaving Brooklyn to move out to the suburbs on Long Island or New Jersey. Also O'Malley saw the huge attendance in Milwaukee at the time and must have figured that somebody was going to get out West and it may as well be him. Also if Robert Moses cared about the teams he would have given the go ahead to O'Malley and moved the Giants out to the future Shea. Like i said New York was cocky back then you needed it it didnt need you.

First of all, Robert Moses did not have the authority or power to give the go ahead to anyone. He got most of his "power" from federal grants from Washington to build new roads and parks. O'Malley used Moses, not the other way around.

O'Malley gave New York years to come to their senses , he moved the team to make more money just as other folks leave one job for advancement. New York thought they didnt need the Dodgers back then, years later looking back in perspective they blundered.

As a matter of fact, although baseball fans suffered, the loss of the Dodgers and Giants didn't hurt NYC one iota. In fact all the politicians in office at the time were re-elected after the Dodgers and Giants left town. So as a matter of fact NYC didn't need the Dodgers or Giants for that matter. O'Malley didn't stick it to the city he stuck it to the fans that had supported him for so many years.